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« on: November 16, 2008, 05:07:42 AM »

We've talked about 72 hr survival packs and if you could only take one knife and so on, but what about your EDC's?
guys on this site carry varied knives as their EDC, but how would that one knife stack up in an emergency situation?
Now i'm going to set a scenario, and you have to honestly say how your current EDC would cope, Only  one person that i've read about carries the ESK on a daily basis, so it will be of great surprise to see so many in this scenario!

Scenario: On your daily commute home from work(train, car bus) in a remote area, you are involved in a crash, where your vehicle rolls a bank into some woods and you are knocked unconscious and thrown far from the wreckage. you come round with cuts( feel free to include a broken limb to up the challenge) and a mild concussion.
  All your stuff is gone save the knife you were carrying. How would that blade cope with the tasks you'd  need to perform in order to survive that situation?
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 03:47:37 PM »

The knife I carry, eh, probably not worth a shit. Truthfully, and my multi-tool, well it's alright but it's ain't worth the time it would take me to piss on it really, but it works for now.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 06:07:22 PM »



hmmmm you got the old thought pattern and the thorizine in me going now... if there is a broken limb...which one do you want ..is it open closed, ..Huh? what area of the country are you in ..?? what time of year ... gimme some perameters son .. then i`ll give a great big long winded idea of what the old-dawg would do...please tell me that my half case of makers mark made it thru the wreck..
 
                          if those broke life wouldnt be worth living my children...so let me know ....
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 10:55:31 PM »

hmm.... kind of makes you think about "what if" a little deeper. Unfortunately, it is "unlawful" to carry what i would like to carry here in Florida. and if i were slapped into this predicament, id have to say that my EDC would not do to hot  Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 04:52:38 PM »

I carry an ESK, everyday.  sometimes its bulky but Id prefer to look like i am happy to someone  rather than not have it when i need it.  i am not to sure if its legal to carry but i dont really care.  as long as i dont commit a crime i dont think a cop will really give a shit about a small fixed blade.  they have bigger shit to worry about in my opinion. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 06:24:18 PM »

i have a nice folder, but it wouldn't be worth a damn in the field...
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 08:23:47 PM »

This is an old post but it's new to me and it doesn't have all opinions of a lot of people here. I recently converted to ESKism and I would have to say that with the small survival kit I have in it(that I would use my zipper to open) and the knife itself I woud be in good shape.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 01:21:00 PM »

     I don't yet carry an ESK--pretty much because I just don't have one yet.  I can say that my typical EDC would, in fact, hold up just fine and perform all of the chores presented it.  I have never had that kind of problem with my EDC choices.
     Redman, what kind of knife would you prefer to carry--perfect world scenario--that is unlawful?  You've got me curious, since FL law is pretty permissive if you aren't committing a crime.  I certainly don't want to break the law, either.  It would suck to survive a tremendous ordeal, only to spend the next couple of years behind bars.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 02:36:12 PM »

without a conceal weapon license, according to all of my cop friends and my CCW instructor, it is unlawful to carry ANY kind of fixed blade weapon in the state of FL.. i took my class years ago, it is possible something changed between then and now, have you taken it recently?
In a perfect world, id love to carry my ask-6.. it does everything i need it to, and then some...
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2010, 09:46:01 AM »

Here is a good source for Knife Laws in all 50 States.

http://home.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2010, 09:47:01 AM »

Florida Law States
Florida - March 2004 text (includes 2003 amendments).
Sections relevant to KNIVES.


790.001. Definitions.
(3)(a)  "Concealed weapon" means any dirk, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon carried on or about a person in such a manner as to conceal the weapon from the ordinary sight of another person.

(13)  "Weapon" means any dirk, metallic knuckles, slungshot, billie, tear gas gun, chemical weapon or device, or other deadly weapon except a firearm or a common pocketknife.




790.01  Carrying concealed weapons.--

(1)  Except as provided in subsection (4), a person who carries a concealed weapon or electric weapon or device on or about his or her person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(2)  A person who carries a concealed firearm on or about his or her person commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(3)  This section does not apply to a person licensed to carry a concealed weapon or a concealed firearm pursuant to the provisions of s. 790.06.

(4)  It is not a violation of this section for a person to carry for purposes of lawful self-defense, in a concealed manner:

(a)  A self-defense chemical spray.

(b)  A nonlethal stun gun or remote stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device which does not fire a dart or projectile and is designed solely for defensive purposes.

(5)  This section does not preclude any prosecution for the use of an electric weapon or device or remote stun gun or self-defense chemical spray during the commission of any criminal offense under s. 790.07, s. 790.10, s. 790.23, or s. 790.235, or for any other criminal offense.




790.06  License to carry concealed weapon or firearm.--

(1)  The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services is authorized to issue licenses to carry concealed weapons or concealed firearms to persons qualified as provided in this section. Each such license must bear a color photograph of the licensee. For the purposes of this section, concealed weapons or concealed firearms are defined as a handgun, electronic weapon or device, tear gas gun, knife, or billie, but the term does not include a machine gun as defined in s. 790.001(9). Such licenses shall be valid throughout the state for a period of 5 years from the date of issuance. Any person in compliance with the terms of such license may carry a concealed weapon or concealed firearm notwithstanding the provisions of s. 790.01. The licensee must carry the license, together with valid identification, at all times in which the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon or firearm and must display both the license and proper identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer. Violations of the provisions of this subsection shall constitute a noncriminal violation with a penalty of $25, payable to the clerk of the court.


(12)  No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any area technical center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.




790.10  Improper exhibition of dangerous weapons or firearms.--If any person having or carrying any dirk, sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, or other weapon shall, in the presence of one or more persons, exhibit the same in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense, the person so offending shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.






790.115  Possessing or discharging weapons or firearms at a school-sponsored event or on school property prohibited; penalties; exceptions.--

(1)  A person who exhibits any sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon, including a razor blade, box cutter, or knife, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, in the presence of one or more persons in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner and not in lawful self-defense, at a school-sponsored event or on the grounds or facilities of any school, school bus, or school bus stop, or within 1,000 feet of the real property that comprises a public or private elementary school, middle school, or secondary school, during school hours or during the time of a sanctioned school activity, commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. This subsection does not apply to the exhibition of a firearm or weapon on private real property within 1,000 feet of a school by the owner of such property or by a person whose presence on such property has been authorized, licensed, or invited by the owner.

(2)(a)  A person shall not possess any firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon, including a razor blade, box cutter, or knife, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, at a school-sponsored event or on the property of any school, school bus, or school bus stop; however, a person may carry a firearm:

1.  In a case to a firearms program, class or function which has been approved in advance by the principal or chief administrative officer of the school as a program or class to which firearms could be carried;

2.  In a case to a vocational school having a firearms training range; or

3.  In a vehicle pursuant to s. 790.25(5); except that school districts may adopt written and published policies that waive the exception in this subparagraph for purposes of student and campus parking privileges.

For the purposes of this section, "school" means any preschool, elementary school, middle school, junior high school, secondary school, vocational school, or postsecondary school, whether public or nonpublic.

(b)  A person who willfully and knowingly possesses any electric weapon or device, destructive device, or other weapon, including a razor blade, box cutter, or knife, except as authorized in support of school-sanctioned activities, in violation of this subsection commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(c)1.  A person who willfully and knowingly possesses any firearm in violation of this subsection commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

2.  A person who stores or leaves a loaded firearm within the reach or easy access of a minor who obtains the firearm and commits a violation of subparagraph 1. commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083; except that this does not apply if the firearm was stored or left in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would have believed to be secure, or was securely locked with a firearm-mounted push-button combination lock or a trigger lock; if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person; or to members of the Armed Forces, National Guard, or State Militia, or to police or other law enforcement officers, with respect to firearm possession by a minor which occurs during or incidental to the performance of their official duties.

(d)  A person who discharges any weapon or firearm while in violation of paragraph (a), unless discharged for lawful defense of himself or herself or another or for a lawful purpose, commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(e)  The penalties of this subsection shall not apply to persons licensed under s. 790.06. Persons licensed under s. 790.06 shall be punished as provided in s. 790.06(12), except that a licenseholder who unlawfully discharges a weapon or firearm on school property as prohibited by this subsection commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(3)  This section does not apply to any law enforcement officer as defined in s. 943.10(1), (2), (3), (4), (6), (7), (Cool, (9), or (14).

(4)  Notwithstanding s. 985.213, s. 985.214, or s. 985.215(1), any minor under 18 years of age who is charged under this section with possessing or discharging a firearm on school property shall be detained in secure detention, unless the state attorney authorizes the release of the minor, and shall be given a probable cause hearing within 24 hours after being taken into custody. At the hearing, the court may order that the minor continue to be held in secure detention for a period of 21 days, during which time the minor shall receive medical, psychiatric, psychological, or substance abuse examinations pursuant to s. 985.224, and a written report shall be completed.





790.17  Furnishing weapons to minors under 18 years of age or persons of unsound mind and furnishing firearms to minors under 18 years of age prohibited.--

(1)  A person who sells, hires, barters, lends, transfers, or gives any minor under 18 years of age any dirk, electric weapon or device, or other weapon, other than an ordinary pocketknife, without permission of the minor's parent or guardian, or sells, hires, barters, lends, transfers, or gives to any person of unsound mind an electric weapon or device or any dangerous weapon, other than an ordinary pocketknife, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.




790.225  Ballistic self-propelled knives; unlawful to manufacture, sell, or possess; forfeiture; penalty.-- [AMENDED 2003, adding section (2)(a)]

(1)  It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, display, sell, own, possess, or use a ballistic self-propelled knife which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as a projectile and which physically separates the blade from the device by means of a coil spring, elastic material, or compressed gas. A ballistic self-propelled knife is declared to be a dangerous or deadly weapon and a contraband item. It shall be subject to seizure and shall be disposed of as provided in s. 790.08(1) and (6).

(2)  This section shall not apply to:

(a)  Any device from which a knifelike blade opens, where such blade remains physically integrated with the device when open.

(b)  Any device which propels an arrow, a bolt, or a dart by means of any common bow, compound bow, crossbow, or underwater spear gun.

(3)  Any person violating the provisions of subsection (1) is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

History.--s. 1, ch. 85-258; s. 178, ch. 91-224; s. 1, ch. 2003-82.

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http://www.knife-expert.com


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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »

     Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you on this one.  Florida's state laws don't prohibit the carry of fixed-blade knives at all, but they do have VERY loose definitions of "deadly weapons" and "concealed weapons"--which has the effect of allowing a LEO to consider almost any object as an illegal or contraband weapon.  Individual counties, cities, municipalities within the state, however, have different rules and regs.  It is very important to have an good working understanding of local laws as well as the number of an excellent lawyer who has experience specifically in knife law.  I have gotten most of my information from a combination of reading the law myself (it's actually pretty straightforward) and speaking with experts on the subject.  If you aren't already a member of KnifeRights, you would do well to at least check them out.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 11:00:25 PM »

I haven't looked at the Ohio law for blades. I'm kind of on the verge of being illegal. I have a Washington state ccp and it is honored here in Ohio. I would like to think that carrying a fixed blade under 3 in is not illegal maybe I'm wrong. I don't plan on getting arrested anytime soon but they may try to give me in trouble for having an out of state ccp being a resident here and all.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 09:42:17 PM »

to answer papabears question: in that scenario..if i was involved in a wreck and thrown far from my gear and only had my knife to rely on...broken limbs can be treated.say a broken leg..cut down a sappling shave the bark and braid it together to make rope and use the tree for a splint..cuts can be clotted with cobb webs.us the sap from the tree to keep the wound closed..two more sapplings to make crutches, and i would simply hobble my ass out of there....
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