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« on: May 06, 2008, 03:45:42 AM »

Can we discuss ways of obtaining water in a survival situation?
I am sure most of you guys know the normal ways of finding water, building stills, etc, but let's discuss other ways of finding or "producing" water.
Back in the 90's when i did national service on the South African border, we would capture a baboon, feed it lots of salt, and then set it free. It would then run to the closest water source - but you would have the fastest fittest tracker (normally a Bushhman) to follow the baboon.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 07:17:43 AM »

when I needed water in a survival situation.

Track animals on game trails  they will always lead you to water
pull your socks off wrap them around your legs and walk through a meadow in early morning..the dew will stick or saturate your socks you can then squeeze it out
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 04:16:14 PM »

My dog is a good source of finding water. A lot of people don't know this, but German Shepherds can smell water from up to ten miles away, ( or so I've been told). ALso dogs won't drink poisoned water. WHich is a plus. So you know that yeah it might give you the craps, and you might hate it, but it ain't gonna kill ya. Of course we should all be at the very minimum boiling our water if not filtering it if we can. Smiley Right? But if your gonna take a chance it's better to let the dog drink it first and see if he kills over before you drink it yourself. Smiley That's my philosphy anyways. I love my dog, and can't imagine life without him, but if it's him or me, well.........
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 03:18:26 PM »

dogs are great tools, but have to be trained.  Have you trained your dog to sniff out water? 
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 05:39:34 PM »

dogs are great tools, but have to be trained.  Have you trained your dog to sniff out water? 

No I haven't. Didn't figure that I needed too. I figured he'd get thirsty enough he'd find it. So how do you go about training your dog to find water? That I would love to teach my dog.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 10:06:35 PM »

cactus is the best source of water in my area. Not only that, it is high in vitamins and minerals, like my "pine needle" tea. The prickly pear it self is a good source of fructose as well. Cactus are everywhere, and in west Texas, have been a large source of water and nutrition to animals in severe drought. It is hardy, grows well, and is very common due to most animals not being able to eat it.

Word of the wise..... some cactus contain another defense, a hallucinogen. So, know your cactus...and save your water source!! Cool Cool
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 10:31:36 PM »

cactus is the best source of water in my area. Not only that, it is high in vitamins and minerals, like my "pine needle" tea. The prickly pear it self is a good source of fructose as well. Cactus are everywhere, and in west Texas, have been a large source of water and nutrition to animals in severe drought. It is hardy, grows well, and is very common due to most animals not being able to eat it.

Word of the wise..... some cactus contain another defense, a hallucinogen. So, know your cactus...and save your water source!! Cool Cool

Well those hallucinogenic cactus I always thought they were the good ones. Smiley They the ones I go for first. LOL! No seriously though. Yeah I have heard that about cactus but have not been able to test the theory on the barrel cactus. I have heard though that it may not be worth the effort. Kind of like the solar still. While it will create water and again some is better than none, from what I have seen it doesn't create enough for the amount of energy expended, nor to keep you alive. So, I mean how do you feel about the cactus? have you tested that for yourself yet, and has proved to be a fruitful endeavor? I am very interested, I live in the desert, and have done a lot of research, but I want to get my ducks in a row before I go out and get lost. LOL! you know what i mean?
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 11:17:00 PM »

some of the old heads around here say you can use a peach tree fork and it will find it for you.....hold it lightly in your hands and it will dip over water
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 01:32:24 PM »

Cactus is good, i eat this species on a regular basis.  its a Mexican delicacy.  remove the thorns, slice, and boil for about 15 minutes, drain and eat.  they taste kinda like green beans.  this is the same species that makes the prickly pear.     
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 04:06:26 PM »

oh, I see. Ok, yeah I have seen a lot of those. Not too much where I am at, unless they are in somebodies yard. I see a lot of saguaro in my general area, up by the mountain. I really got get out there man, and start finding this stuff. Could come in handy. How are they as a water supply? Can you get water from them, or do you need to dig to get to it?
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 12:52:08 AM »

bingo!!!!! no, shave the outer layer on a prickly pear, an box the top. for a side dish, boil as directed. for survival, skin and eat. I have seen some barrel cactus an my vote is no on the effort. but, a prickly pear is nothing to shave, and its clean water. they are easy if you can fillet something.

word of the wise two: a cactus is the favorite home for field mice and pack rats. (heres the wise part) Snakes eat mice, and will live in the cactus and wait on mice. Look at the soon to be eaten cactus, poke it with a stick or use a rock. A snake bite can kill quicker than dehydration unattended or treated.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 05:58:46 AM »

SWEET! Yeah, I don't mess with the snakes. I kill them with a gun. Unless I'm in city limits and people are looking at me like I'm some kind of a looney. But damnit they are faster than me, and I really don't like getting that close to have to kill them with a shovel. Good, to know. Thanks for the tips, and I am glad that I asked. Woot. Something learned already this morning. So no matter what it will be a good productive day. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 10:23:57 AM »

So back on the subject, game trails can help you find water.  they can also go on for miles.
where i live in California its easy to find the areas that have water cause during the summer, fall, and winter most of the land is dry and the grassy hills are all yellow and all i have to look for is the green group of foliage, usually in between the hills.  also don't forget  to get your local maps of the surrounding wilderness areas and go out and explore and make notes.  some areas can have water one year but not the next so get multiple areas that are viable water sources.       
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 09:41:25 AM »

... though its an old topic i said i give it a push ... 

... almost in every environment moisture is present , in humid places watergathering should not be a problem,  plants will either provide or guide us to where water is , in a more dry places though, moisture is also there but in particular time  ... after sunset its when animals go to drink and we go harvesting ...
 

... all we need is our cup , one piece of synthetic cloth or a piece of plastic bag or something similar 10'' x 10''  , our knife,  4 medium sized stones ( like a medium hand fist ) and 1 small one ( wallnut size )  ....

... from the previous afternoon we dig a hole in the ground  something like 5''-6'' wide, 7''-8'' deep ... before hitting the shack we put our cup inside the hole ... we cover the hole with the cloth and we secure the four sides with the 4 medium stones then we place carefully the small one in the middle of the cloth so that it makes a short of crater and we let it rest for the night ... 

... next morning, depending to the air moisture, we 'll propably collect something like 1/2 to 3/4 of a cup ... you don't get drowned in it but, ... you have a cup of water ... and dry socks ...  ( moisture  evaporated from the ground is forming water drops on the "under" surface of the synthetic cloth which joined together are slowly recede donwards to the peak of the upside down pyramid formed from the cloth and stone above our cup, an finally in it ... plain everyday physics )



... please give it a try and tell us if it worked for you ... i did it and works ... we can make also a small filter ...  inside a piece of cotton cloth ( our scarf maybe ) we place a cotton ball from our survival kit  and we pour the water through that to our canteen or water bottle

 additionally and there is some vegitation we can use our scarf ( everyone  should carry one along in the field , light, cotton or microfiber wrapped around the neck covers your full head if necessary, takes sweat away during the day and the bugs at night .... and you can use it in various ways AND to collect water in a "similar" way our friend described using socks  ... ) 

... ofcourse there are a lot of different ways to collect water but the above mentioned seems to me  usefull in all terain ... for replacing fluid generaly we can use in certain occasions if needed, the blood of our hunt 


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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2010, 11:24:40 AM »

Here in the east coast and in most non desert evironments if you follow the low ground you will find a source of water. Mostly creeks and such in which water has to be boiled. Most harmful microorganisms will die at boiling point. In northamerica there are non that can survive past boiling point but if you are in central or south America it's a different story because I don't k ow much about those places. You can also combine boiling with other filtration methods. Recently I have been researching ceramic to filter water.
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